More tax money should be spent on police and prisons to make NZ safer?

On average, everyone agrees with nonconsensus between 436 voters.

Reasons To Disagree

There is only so much pie and I don't believe that the police or prisons deserve a greater slice than what they already have. I do think they should look at their own MANAGEMENT and I think the media should be more savvy about reporting where the money is really going.

I agree with 'reasons for remain neutral' if the fear of a life sentence, appalling conditions and loss of contact with all family and life outside i think we'd have a potential way forward.

we need to start looking at whats making people offend and truly making a difference to help them change while they are in custody instead of leaving them to live a more mind playing life inside the longer they get in prison the more likely they are to get worser and learn worser things. Life should mean life

More prisons won't make NZ safer, it will be the opposite.

make criminal works for their living and to repay the community and victim

Money could probably be better spent in other areas of government preventing crime (Education for example) rather than spending the money on fighting it. Also there are other ways in which NZ could prevent crime rather than throwing money at it.

prison is not a good place to send people. some of them go in for a small crime and come out a gang member.

Murderers, Rapists and child abusers, Violent offenders against the weak and helpless should all be shot. This would save heaps of space, and there would be more chance of rehabilitating the lesser offenders without the influence of the scum, thereby saving even more space. Oh, also patch wearing gang members over the age of 25. Shoot on sight. A bit messy at first, but much better in the long run.

Prison should not be a nice place, it should not need so much money to run. People go there to pay for crimes, thus it should be a place where people dont want to go.

I live in Otara and I can ensure you its no Compton or Bronx. All this talk about South Auckland being really dangerous is rubbish. Crime happens but it happens everywhere doesnt it? Police are doing a good job as it is.

The police are already imposing enough of their influence on innocent citizens lives. Don't become a police/prison economic system.

Police.. Yes. But prison? I think they get enough money.. I mean prison is supposed to be a place where criminals suffer for their crime... Not live in luxury. I've seen the newly built prison in Auckland and it looks almost as flash as school.. They even have their own gym.. Wtf?

Maybe stop arresting people and spending millions on the war on cannabis. Use cannabis to it's full potential with hemp clothing, concrete wonder food, no chemicals no fertilizer no cost other than land and time. Durable clothing, ropes and insulation can be made. Youy could make a car, as strong as steel out of hemp. hemp oil is fuel for the car also. hemp fuel can slow petrolium prices. hemp oil is plastic aswell!! We need to remove the image of cannabis being bad, it's the future, stop delaying it.

Definetly not there already wasting to much of tax payers money yes people make mistakes and it depends on the crime & individual circumstances but definetly think deadly assault , murder & rape criminals should be knocked on the head save everyone money & time

Reasons To Agree

There is a growing feeling of becoming unsafe in our homes in NZ. Couple this with a growth in youth releated street gangs, high incidents of property crime and a perceived weak justice system and we have a problem. A greater police presence along with greater personal responsibility for ones actions should be a priority.

Why was the list of reason to agree so short????? We need better police, more low budget jails and less rights for criminals. Our police should be strong and above normal people. They must not be held to ransom by Kahui. Kahui eh... what's up with that? Is it good for maori to continue going along in a state of denial about their "culture"??

Prisons however, need to be seen as not only a place to put nastys to protectg society from them, but also we need to put an action plan in place to actually rehabilitate those same nasties so when they are released they at least have the chance to be reformed and model citizens

A close look at the creature comforts of prisons needs to happen. Why are these prisoners not growing their own veges? Why are they being fed meat (which is expensive). Thye need to earn their keep. Don't get them to do work like fixing clothes that would put small businesses out of work. Make prisons almost self-sufficient. Solar powered, vege gardens that the prisoners till, they don't work they don't eat.

It is essential that zero-tolerance is established in order to get the message across that criminals will not prosper. At the moment they do (prosper) so the money needs to be spent on jails and police. [Note: Jails - not luxury hotels.] The system is toothless - "Liberal" lawyers - coining it in defence of the indefensible on the most fatuous grounds - then appealing the sentence - and "liberal" judges then lean over backwards to reduce what was too little in the first place. This is where all the money is being wasted.